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Wrath of m0o · Mar 09, 2009, 07:41 AM // 07:41

Shouldnt a winter spirit change the Burning Duration of RoJ to cold damage?
I would have thought that smite/holy and Ritualist Lightning damage fall under the category of elemental.
I was testing this out on some destroyers but it seems winter only effects elementalist damages..ect fire,earth,water,air.

Wouldnt Lightning Damage from a rit fall under Air Elemental?
Shouldnt Winter change the burning duration from RoJ to Cold damage?
Or is it because its burning from a smite skill, that doesnt trigger with winter?

tmakinen · Mar 09, 2009, 07:56 AM // 07:56

1. Winter was bugged at some point, don't remember whether ANet fixed it yet.
2. Burning is not really 'damage' but a condition that causes health degeneration. The description of burning should be 'target takes 14 fire damage per second while burning' in order to Winter affect it but this isn't the case.
3. Elemental type damage from non-elementalist sources (e.g. rit lightning and necro cold damage) should meet the 'elemental damage' criterion.

Wrath of m0o · Mar 09, 2009, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Anyone know if Winter works with Burning from a Fire Ele?
Or is Burning like you said..A Condition and not Fire Damage?

Dawn Angelheart · Mar 09, 2009, 08:57 AM // 08:57

im not quite sure about what triggers winter when it comes to holy damage.
but i would also assume that holy damage is armour ignoring, thats why its so powerfull. And changing it to cold damage would make it weaker no?

MisterB · Mar 09, 2009, 09:12 AM // 09:12

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Originally Posted by tmakinen

1. Winter was bugged at some point, don't remember whether ANet fixed it yet.

They fixed it.

Unless damage is fire, cold, lightning, or earth, [[Winter] won't affect it. Winter only affects elemental damage. Burning is a condition, like poison or bleeding. It is not damage.

Luminarus · Mar 09, 2009, 10:35 AM // 10:35

RoJ is not, and should not be affected by winter due to a) holy damage and b) condition.

miskav · Mar 09, 2009, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Burning is a condition, not a damage source.

Loki Seiguro · Mar 09, 2009, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Holy = armor ignoring.....why change it?

Arduin · Mar 09, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

Holy = armor ignoring.....why change it?

Triggering [[Spinal Shivers] with Cold damage comes to mind.

Mar 09, 2009, 07:41 AM // 07:41	#1
Wrath of m0o Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boston Ma. Guild: Is That Your Build[HaHa] Profession: P/W	RoJ + Winter Question Shouldnt a winter spirit change the Burning Duration of RoJ to cold damage? I would have thought that smite/holy and Ritualist Lightning damage fall under the category of elemental. I was testing this out on some destroyers but it seems winter only effects elementalist damages..ect fire,earth,water,air. Wouldnt Lightning Damage from a rit fall under Air Elemental? Shouldnt Winter change the burning duration from RoJ to Cold damage? Or is it because its burning from a smite skill, that doesnt trigger with winter?

Mar 09, 2009, 07:56 AM // 07:56	#2
tmakinen Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: www.mybearfriend.net Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: E/	1. Winter was bugged at some point, don't remember whether ANet fixed it yet. 2. Burning is not really 'damage' but a condition that causes health degeneration. The description of burning should be 'target takes 14 fire damage per second while burning' in order to Winter affect it but this isn't the case. 3. Elemental type damage from non-elementalist sources (e.g. rit lightning and necro cold damage) should meet the 'elemental damage' criterion.

Mar 09, 2009, 08:15 AM // 08:15	#3
Wrath of m0o Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boston Ma. Guild: Is That Your Build[HaHa] Profession: P/W	Anyone know if Winter works with Burning from a Fire Ele? Or is Burning like you said..A Condition and not Fire Damage?

Mar 09, 2009, 08:57 AM // 08:57	#4
Dawn Angelheart Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2008 Guild: We Bought Plan C On [Ebay] Profession: W/E	im not quite sure about what triggers winter when it comes to holy damage. but i would also assume that holy damage is armour ignoring, thats why its so powerfull. And changing it to cold damage would make it weaker no?

Mar 09, 2009, 10:35 AM // 10:35	#6
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	RoJ is not, and should not be affected by winter due to a) holy damage and b) condition.

Mar 09, 2009, 12:15 PM // 12:15	#7
miskav Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: None Profession: Mo/	Burning is a condition, not a damage source.

Mar 09, 2009, 03:09 PM // 15:09	#8
Loki Seiguro Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: IGN: Scarlet Test Ace Guild: We play Isketch in [HoH] Profession: E/	Holy = armor ignoring.....why change it?